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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:34 pm 
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Yeah. Thats mine to fix. I think we were both working from different anthro-texts. Mine being the older I'll adapt it to fit.

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Note that the 'Gunguska' also seems to contradict the 'Urgar' in Niccolo's account of the steppes people. Are they a different people? If not, we need to pick one name for them, and go with one history, or make it clear they are different peoples (perhaps from different parts of the steppe?).


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wimlach wrote:
Note that the 'Gunguska' also seems to contradict the 'Urgar' in Niccolo's account of the steppes people. Are they a different people? If not, we need to pick one name for them, and go with one history, or make it clear they are different peoples (perhaps from different parts of the steppe?).


I think Urgar is the general term for people of the steppes, Black Pavillion and Gunguska are among the example 'minor' khanates listed in Book 6./the Core Book.

Anyway they should be fixed tomorrow...or Saturday at the latest. :)

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:33 pm 
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And....fixed....I think...

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A couple of things I've noted...

The character creation section specifies Moon Shamans as male and Sun Shamans as female, but this isn't reflected in the Black Pavilion section. Also, the Black Pavilion section states that he division into Black/Moon and White/Sun shamans is unique to Black Pavilion, while the character creation section implies that this division applies to all Steppes Shamans. There are also subtle differences in tone between the two sections. For example:

Black Pavilion
Alone among the Urgar the Black Shamans are regarded as more powerful than their White (and Yellow) counterparts, and their rule is absolute in the Black Pavilion.

Character Creation
...it is the Moon Shamans who can be found most often among the populace, offering spiritual guidance, practical advice and protection from both supernatural and mundane threats [...] while both paths are respected and honoured among the nomads, it is the Sun Shamans that are feared

I would be tempted to structure it something like this:

1. Niccolo's writings
2. The Steppes Shamans (incorporating/merging the general material on Shamans from the Black Pavilion section with the Introduction from the character creation section, and ironing out the inconsistencies)
3. The Gunguska (or could have this section before the Shamans)
3. Black Pavilion (focusing on the incorporation of Sorcerors and Mystics into their ranks, and also introducing the Yellow Shamans)
4. Codex Cryptozoologica II
5. Along the Way
6. Shaman character creation [if not included in #2 above, but I can see why you might want to put this at the end rather than interrupt the flow of the background sections. Alternatively, you could put it between #3 and #4]

Stop me if I'm being a pain..! :oops:


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All good....seems I missed some stuff....again.

I'll drag B P into fitting with the other material in the morning.

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drb1004 wrote:
A couple of things I've noted...

The character creation section specifies Moon Shamans as male and Sun Shamans as female, but this isn't reflected in the Black Pavilion section. Also, the Black Pavilion section states that he division into Black/Moon and White/Sun shamans is unique to Black Pavilion, while the character creation section implies that this division applies to all Steppes Shamans. There are also subtle differences in tone between the two sections. For example:

Black Pavilion
Alone among the Urgar the Black Shamans are regarded as more powerful than their White (and Yellow) counterparts, and their rule is absolute in the Black Pavilion.

Character Creation
...it is the Moon Shamans who can be found most often among the populace, offering spiritual guidance, practical advice and protection from both supernatural and mundane threats [...] while both paths are respected and honoured among the nomads, it is the Sun Shamans that are feared

Stop me if I'm being a pain..! :oops:


Ah!

No, it was meant to reflect that Only among the people of Black Pavilion are Moon Shamans considered more powerful and more feared, the division into Moon and Sun shamanism exists throughout the Urgar peoples and among other peoples of the area as well. Of course OOC it is because a Black Pavilion Moon Shaman may be a disguised Sorcerer.

I'll fix the sexes thang.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:01 am 
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Cameron Smiths Kef information should probably also be inserted but it still needs quite a bit of polishing. Just sent off an email to get permission to slot it in.

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Some background info from Stephen Dove, I think most of it is covered in the Niccolo section but if theres anything there someone wants to expand on feel free.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5IAzD ... w?ths=true

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There is another half finished adventure by Jeremy Davies but, if my memory is not failing me, I have so far been unable to reach him so looks like we won't be able to use that one.

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